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Palin 48.5%, Obama 48% in Ohio (Palin 51-49% W/ Assumptions)

Public Policy Polling’s magic is back to work again. A new Ohio poll, featuring an important swing state that Obama narrowly won in 2008, is up this week. Like most other PPP polls, Democrats are the overwhelming respondents in this poll. How bad? Lets take a look: The PPP poll had a respondent makeup of 45% Democrat, 35% Republican, 20 Independent, giving the Democrats a +10 Net Advantage over Republicans. In 2010, the Ohio turnout was 36% Republican, 36% Democrat, 28% Independent. So, no difference. The 45% Democrat sample even overdoes Democrat heavy 2008 by 6 points, where still only 39% of the Ohio electorate were Democrats. Its a near impossibility that 45% of the 2010 voting electorate will be Democrats in Ohio if it wasn’t even that close in 2009, as this poll shows.

What does PPP President Dean Debnam say about these results? “These Ohio numbers epitomize Barack Obama’s status right now- he’s not terribly popular but the Republican field is even more unpopular and because of that he’d be in a solid shape for reelection if we had to vote today. If a GOP candidate really captures the attention of the voters Obama will be in trouble but that is far from inevitable.” Ok, sure, if 45% of the electorate is Democrats….

PPP Reports a 10 Point Victory for Obama against Palin if the election were held today. Gosh, I wonder if a 10 point victory has anything to do with a 10 point artificial inflation of Democrats? Doing the work no media analysts will do, we re-run the numbers here and let you decide what is most accurate.

PPP Data: Obama 50%, Palin 40% (Unweighted poll, uses Dem sample 10 point higher than 2010 total and 6 points higher than 2008 total.)

Poll Insider Base Analysis:  Obama 46%, Palin 43.5% – Here we see a statistical dead heat. We rework the the PPP numbers showing the makeup of the 2010 electorate of 36% Democrats, 36% Republicans, and 28% Independents. It is safe to assume that the 2012 electorate will be much closer to the 2010 one than to the 2008 one now that Obama has a (fairly unpopular) record in the state. Sarah Palin actually tops Obama slightly in Independents by 1% and even gets 1% more Democrats than Obama gets Republicans.

Poll Insider Analysis Level 2: Palin 48.5%, Obama 48% – This level I consider the best indicator on a statistical level as it includes all GOP and Dems and leaves out undecided Independents. Still a close race, but now Palin moves ahead. The reason Palin still trails in the first poll is that 14% of Republicans are undecided compared to just 5% of Democrats, these are allotted in similar fashion as the rest of the voting bases for each candidate.  Challnger party high undecided rate is very common when testing an incumbent vs. a multitude of potential challengers, and the challengers usually trail in the undecided column. Why? In this case Republican voters often have a candidate in their minds to go up against the incumbent. Oftentimes they answer undecided when their candidate is not the one mentioned because at the time they don’t want to imagine that person as the candidate, even though they are likely to vote for them should they become the nominee. The incumbent’s party usually has low undecideds as they know who the candidate will be and there is no other horse in the race.

Poll Insider Analysis Level 3: Palin 51%, Obama 49%. Of the remaining 15% Undecided Independents, we allotted 9% to Palin and 6% to Obama, giving the break 3-2 to the challenger. We arrive at this rate knowing that Undecided Independents usually vote for the incumbents by similar (or greater) margins; Ohio Independents favored Republican Senate candidate Portman by almost 40% points over his Democrat challenger and favored now Governor Kasich by 16% over the Democrat incumbent.

4 scenarios, 3 of which show a reasonably close race, the other is PPP. I analyze, you decide. This is a good sign for Palin as she will have a much better opportunity to change minds in her favor than Obama will. If Palin’s numbers are this strong with the media coverage she has gotten, Ohio might not even be a toss-up a year from now.

Other tidbits from the poll:

Favorability among Conservatives: Palin Favorables among the “very Conservative” is at a solid 76% for a +62% favorable measure. She is +18% among “somewhat conservative” voters and falls off considerably from there with more liberal voters, not surprisingly. Gingrich meanwhile is at a softer (but surprisingly high) +32% among very conservative voters but at -9% among somewhat conservative voters. Romney knocks in +27% in the very important and active “very conservative group” which is 60% lower than Palin’s support. But he rebounds with somewhat conservative voters at +31% and does best in favorables among liberal voters.

Favorability among Republicans: Hey, remember all those media stories about how Palin is falling from GOP stardom? Well, turns out she remain the top Republican of the 3 main challengers. While Gingrich has a pitiful +9 standing among Republicans and Romney is at a pretty decent +30, Palin leads the pack among the Republican field at +36% favorability.

Categories: General
  1. Jeff
    May 24, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    Good job. Keep up the great work.

  2. Dan
    May 24, 2011 at 4:46 pm

    Great analysis

  3. Franklin
    May 24, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    I notice that PPP has her favorables among independents at -28 yet she leads by 1 against Obama. Have seen the same thing in other PPP polls. In Virginia, Huckabee was -5 favorability among independents and Palin was -35. Yet the difference between Palin and Huckabee against Obama was a whopping 3 points. Either the books are being cooked or fav.unfa is not as important as it is made out to be.

    • May 24, 2011 at 6:14 pm

      Franklin, I think that means Sarah’s upside is HUGE because she does about as well as the other candidates and yet currently is disliked/unknown…. the other Reps have little room for improvement in favorables section

  4. Joel Luther
    May 24, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    Great work!! Governor. Palin is a FIGHTER!!

  5. Joel Luther
    May 24, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    The left isn’t attacking her because she is a lady,, the left is attacking her because she is AHEAD OF THEM!! GOVERNOR. PALIN IS AHEAD OF THEIR OWN GAME!!.. And, that explains all of the insanity from the left that is directed at her..

  6. erica
    May 25, 2011 at 12:28 am

    This is crap. Seriously it is. We have a ton of Ron Paul supporters here in Ohio and he has the best chance of beating Obama in a real election and you do not even mention his name? People are getting tired of news sources lately as you all keep showing how biased you really are. losing credibility everyday.

    • May 25, 2011 at 5:56 am

      Because Ron Paul wasn’t part of the poll. Take it up with them….

  7. Stephen Whitrock
    May 25, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    The media has tried to beat her down for three years,but to no avail.No one has ever been savaged like her and her family have but she held firm.That’s the kind of a person we need to make America great again.I,and all my family and friends will do all possible to see she is our nominee,and president.

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